Re: Smoking
By: Bf2k+ to kk4qbn on Sun Jun 09 2024 19:48:15

Suprising enough, My health problems did'nt start until I stopped smoking,
and other lifestyle changes to try to benefit my health. It was a real
shock to my body I guess.. took about 3-4 years to get my blood pressure
and heart-rate stable.

I quit in 2008 and other than the normal bs that goes with being a diabetic, I didn't really have any other issues.

I never had I blood-sugar until after I quit smoking and drinking sodas, etc.. I'ts crazy.. All of it started less than a month after I stopped, But I had also stopped a long bout of an opoid addiction so I'm sure that may have had more to do with a lot of the health issues.

My wife finally quit a little over a year ago. It was killing her. Less that three weeks after quitting, her face had completely changed and she looked much more lively and younger. She can't breathe anymore and she has gained about 20 lbs but I am just so glad she finally quit...

I'm happy I stopped too.. It's crazy I tried and tried to stop smoking numerous times and never could, then one day I just had an epiphany that I was not going to die young and leave a good looking corps like I thought I was going to. That I was actually probably going to live a lot longer than I thought and I wanted my body to be able to keep up with my mind. After that I just could'nt smoke anymore. cigarettes tasted like crap.. I kept a pack in my pocket for a whole week just in case, but I just could'nt light another up.

The opiotes were a little harder to come off of after so many years of use and abuse, it wasnt like I was getting high off them anymore, I was just maintaining. But I'm so happy to be off all that.. And sugary drinks too.. I stopped it all, all around the same time 4 years ago.

To this day I still cannot stand to smell cigarettes and cant stand the taste or the consistancy of a soda, cannot believe I used to consume so much of that crap.
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Re: Re: Smoking
By: fusion to MRO on Sun Jun 09 2024 02:01 pm

i actually somewhat miss it when people could smoke indoors. i remember one weekend everyone hanging out in the bar having a blast and the next weekend the law changed and it became this routine of people heading back and forth to smoke while i sat inside waiting.

Some of my family smokes, and even at home, they like to smoke outside so that they don't smoke up the inside of their house. So when I'm at their house, I either sit inside while they go outside to smoke, or I go out with them.

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Re: Smoking
By: Tiny to MRO on Mon Jun 10 2024 06:32 am

Quoting Mro to Tiny <=-

I have noticed that there's a lot of smokers, and they continue on. It's extremely addicting. I started smoking around 10 and I stopped when i was 28 and I still want a cig when I smell someone smoking one.

I don't miss it at all anymore. The smell is pretty disgusting to me now.

whats disgusting is when people hit it hard and it's in their clothes and their whole body. that smells horrible.

just the regular smoke is ok for me sometimes.

I was still able to quit. It wasn't easy, but it wasn't like I was
climbing the walls either. Smoked for over 1/2 my life at the time I
quit.

i guess you didnt have the junkie effect.
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Re: Smoking
By: Nightfox to Dumas Walker on Sun Jun 09 2024 06:32 pm

cigarette smoking seems to be
making a comeback.

That surprises me too. :(

I heard that in some European
countries, doctors say that up to 5
cigarettes a day is totally fine.

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Re: Smoking
By: kk4qbn to Bf2k+ on Mon Jun 10 2024 08:20 am

also stopped a long bout of an opoid
addiction so I'm sure that may have

Awesome that you kicked that. But, if
you ever (EVER) decide to try again,
PLEASE remember that you don't need to
take as much as you did when you
regularly did them, and only take a
tiny fraction of what you did before.

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Quoting Mro to Tiny <=-

whats disgusting is when people hit it hard and it's in their clothes
and their whole body. that smells horrible.

Yes it does. Even when they come in from outside after smoking the cheap native "bag o' smokes".

i guess you didnt have the junkie effect.

I was pretty lucky I guess. Every vice I've quit there have been no
real effects.

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Re: Smoking
By: Tiny to MRO on Tue Jun 11 2024 06:25 am

Yes it does. Even when they come in from outside after smoking the cheap native "bag o' smokes".

Ugh, I had a buddy that smoked cloves all the time. I actually had to air out my clothes even when I'd ONLY been in the same room with him, not even around when smoking or anything.

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Re: Smoking
By: phigan to kk4qbn on Mon Jun 10 2024 18:24:47

Re: Smoking
By: kk4qbn to Bf2k+ on Mon Jun 10 2024 08:20 am

also stopped a long bout of an opoid addiction so I'm sure that may have

Awesome that you kicked that. But, if you ever (EVER) decide to try again, PLEASE remember that you don't need to take as much as you did when you regularly did them, and only take a tiny fraction of what you did before.

Yep, I've known of a couple people that have died that way. Addiction is bad and one cannot let themselves think that they are above it, or over it.. theres always that one event, sound, smell, or anything that could trigger a relapse. So definaly I stay very aware of that and use time to stop and think. It's definatly not worth it, I have distanced myself from ANYONE I used to hang with. It's far too dangerous anymore to fool with anything, they are putting carfentanil in EVERYTHING, spiking pain pills, xanax. vapes. marijuana, I mean everything. and it's crazy.. there is definatly no room for complacency.
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Re: Smoking
By: kk4qbn to Bf2k+ on Mon Jun 10 2024 08:20 am

To this day I still cannot stand to smell cigarettes and cant stand the taste or the consistancy of a soda, cannot believe I used to consume so much of that crap.

Pepsi is the last of my 'vices' and one I need to stop and soon...

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Re: Smoking
By: Bf2k+ to kk4qbn on Tue Jun 11 2024 10:44 am

Pepsi is the last of my 'vices' and one I need to stop and soon...

It seems to me things like that in moderation are okay. Pepsi is one of my favorite sodas (I like it better than Coke).

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Re: Smoking
By: Tiny to MRO on Mon Jun 10 2024 06:32:00

Quoting Mro to Tiny <=-

I was still able to quit. It wasn't easy, but it wasn't like I was
climbing the walls either. Smoked for over 1/2 my life at the time I
quit.

I don't want to belabor this but, I started smoking at 12 yo, and gave it by best until I had the (almost) BIG one at 60 yo and got me a membership in the chest scar club. Soon as I felt better, I lit up. 4 years after that i found out I had throat cancer and spent 4 months at Princess Margaret getting 'the works' during Covid. I STILL stared at butt's on the ground. Finally quit!

It's tough man. Sing like a baratone now. :-)


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Quoting Mickey to Tiny <=-

years after that i found out I had throat cancer and spent 4 months at Princess Margaret getting 'the works' during Covid. I STILL stared at butt's on the ground. Finally quit!

At least you quit eventually! ;) I had oral cancer in 2007 and that was
it for me, Doc said it had a much better chance of not coming back if I
didn't smoke again, so I didn't.

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Re: Smoking
By: Nightfox to Bf2k+ on Tue Jun 11 2024 11:19 am

Pepsi is one of my favorite sodas (I like it better than Coke).

Me too... :)

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phigan wrote to Tiny <=-

Ugh, I had a buddy that smoked cloves all the time. I actually had to
air out my clothes even when I'd ONLY been in the same room with him,
not even around when smoking or anything.

Clove cigarettes remind me of hacky sack, college quads, diner coffee, half-read philosophy paperbacks, cheap gas, road trips, and being in my
20s.



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whats disgusting is when people hit it hard and it's in their clothes and their whole body. that smells horrible.

Yes it does. Even when they come in from outside after smoking the cheap native "bag o' smokes".

When I was ~25, I went out for a while with a lady who smoked. I never
could figure out how she did it but she never smelled like she smoked. I
know she smoked outside often, but I also know she smoked in her car and in other indoor places (you could smoke in restaurants back then, for example).

OTOH, about 10 years ago I went out for a few times with another gal who smoked. She was also, IMHO, an alcoholic. She often smelled like an
ashtray that someone had spilled stale beer in. I am glad I didn't date
her when I was younger! :o


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It seems to me things like that in moderation are okay. Pepsi is one of my favorite sodas (I like it better than Coke).

I prefer Double Cola, Red Rock, or RC, but they can be more difficult to
find (especially the first two).

My real soda "vices" are Ski and Ale-8-One. ;)


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Re: Smoking
By: Dumas Walker to NIGHTFOX on Wed Jun 12 2024 08:29 am

It seems to me things like that in moderation are okay. Pepsi is one of my
favorite sodas (I like it better than Coke).

I prefer Double Cola, Red Rock, or RC, but they can be more difficult to find (especially the first two).

I haven't heard of the first 2. I like RC though.

My real soda "vices" are Ski and Ale-8-One. ;)

I haven't heard of those either. :)

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Re: Smoking
By: Bf2k+ to kk4qbn on Tue Jun 11 2024 10:44 am

To this day I still cannot stand to smell cigarettes and cant stand the taste or the consistancy of a soda, cannot believe I used to consume so much of that crap.

Pepsi is the last of my 'vices' and one I need to stop and soon...

I quit soda years ago and I was a habitual drinker. I just quit cold turkey and don't have any suggestions other than when I feel a hankering I actually have carbonated water. It kind of fakes me out a little that I'm having a soda. I realize it's not the same thing and might even be not attactive, I certainly didn't like them. But I do now and it fills the need when I need it.

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Re: Re: Smoking
By: poindexter FORTRAN to phigan on Wed Jun 12 2024 05:53 am

Clove cigarettes remind me of hacky sack, college quads, diner coffee, half-read philosophy paperbacks, cheap gas, road trips, and being in my
20s.

And not of goths? :)

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Re: Smoking
By: The Lizard Master to Bf2k+ on Wed Jun 12 2024 03:58 am

carbonated water. It kind of fakes me out a little that I'm having a soda. I

Funny you mention the faking out thing. Sometimes I'll have a carbonated water and it tricks my brain into thinking I'm having an alcoholic drink, and then it makes me want a cigarette.

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Re: Smoking
By: Dumas Walker to TINY on Wed Jun 12 2024 08:26 am

whats disgusting is when people hit it hard and it's in their clothes and their whole body. that smells horrible.

Yes it does. Even when they come in from outside after smoking the cheap native "bag o' smokes".

When I was ~25, I went out for a while with a lady who smoked. I never could figure out how she did it but she never smelled like she smoked. I know she smoked outside often, but I also know she smoked in her car and in other indoor places (you could smoke in restaurants back then, for example).

yeah, i had a coworker who smoked a lot and didn't smell. she would just smoke outside.
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On Wed Jun 12 03:58:00 2024, The Lizard Master wrote to Bf2k+ <=-

suggestions other than when I feel a hankering I actually have carbonated water. It kind of

I've been doing this for years as well. In fact having a club soda now. It does fool me into
thinking I'm not missing out.

I do the same thing with the fake beer and fake booze. I don't feel I'm missing anything except the stuff that's bad for me. :)

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On Wed Jun 12 08:26:00 2024, Dumas Walker wrote to TINY <=-

When I was ~25, I went out for a while with a lady who smoked. I never could figure out how she did it but she never smelled like she smoked. I know she smoked outside often, but I also know she smoked in her car and in other indoor places (you could smoke in restaurants back then, for example).

I knew a women like that, she told me the trick is to hand sanatize before she came
inside, as well as other washing tricks.

OTOH, about 10 years ago I went out for a few times with another gal who smoked. She was also, IMHO, an alcoholic. She often smelled like an ashtray that someone had spilled stale beer in. I am glad I didn't date
her when I was younger! :o

This is what my supervisor is like, he's a walking ashtray. LOL

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Clove cigarettes remind me of hacky sack, college quads, diner coffee, half-read philosophy paperbacks, cheap gas, road trips, and being in my 20s.

And not of goths? :)

When I was younger (late '80s/early '90s), the folks who smoked clove cigarettes were not goths. Most of the goths that smoked in college smoked
the real ones (and drank like fish).


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When I was ~25, I went out for a while with a lady who smoked. I never could figure out how she did it but she never smelled like she smoked. I know she smoked outside often, but I also know she smoked in her car and in other indoor places (you could smoke in restaurants back then, for example).

I knew a women like that, she told me the trick is to hand sanatize before she >came
inside, as well as other washing tricks.

Hand sanitizing wasn't a big thing back then. Washing was though. ;) I
think she used a perfume or lotion that must have either got rid of it or covered it up real good.


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Two hookers were talking on a street corner.

One of them asked "Do you smoke when you finish?"

The other one said "I don't know, I never looked."




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Tiny wrote to The Lizard Master <=-

I've been doing this for years as well. In fact having a club soda
now. It does fool me into thinking I'm not missing out.

I drank tonic waters in clubs with lime and didn't miss the gin - it's
still a favorite drink of mine.



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Re: Re: Smoking
By: poindexter FORTRAN to All on Thu Jun 13 2024 07:09 am

Two hookers were talking on a street corner.

One of them asked "Do you smoke when you finish?"

The other one said "I don't know, I never looked."

reminds me of one of my favorite taglines:


... If you smoke after sex you're doing it too fast.

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Re: Smoking
By: phigan to Tiny on Tue Jun 11 2024 05:53 am

Re: Smoking
By: Tiny to MRO on Tue Jun 11 2024 06:25 am

Yes it does. Even when they come in from outside after smoking the cheap native "bag o' smokes".

Ugh, I had a buddy that smoked cloves all the time. I actually had to air ou my clothes even when I'd ONLY been in the same room with him, not even aroun when smoking or anything.

clove cigarettes taste nice but i never thought of how it made those around me smell. now i will rethink that.

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Re: Smoking
By: Wes Thomas to phigan on Sun Jun 16 2024 06:39 am

Re: Smoking
By: phigan to Tiny on Tue Jun 11 2024 05:53 am

Re: Smoking
By: Tiny to MRO on Tue Jun 11 2024 06:25 am

Yes it does. Even when they come in from outside after smoking the cheap native "bag o' smokes".

Ugh, I had a buddy that smoked cloves all the time. I actually had to air ou my clothes even when I'd ONLY been in the same room with him, not even aroun when smoking or anything.

clove cigarettes taste nice but i never thought of how it made those around me smell. now i will rethink that.

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The other one said "I don't know, I never looked."

reminds me of one of my favorite taglines:

... If you smoke after sex you're doing it too fast.

If you smoke after sex, use more lube.


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